----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Dickson" <SteveD@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" <devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek" > <zbyszek@xxxxxxxxx> > Cc: "Yaakov Selkowitz" <yselkowi@xxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, December 8, 2017 4:31:58 PM > Subject: Re: What to I have to do.... > > > > On 12/08/2017 10:07 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 08, 2017 at 08:31:44AM -0500, Steve Dickson wrote: > >> > >> > >> On 12/07/2017 02:18 PM, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: > >>> On 2017-12-07 09:31, Steve Dickson wrote: > >>>> What do I have to do to stop random people > >>>> from making random changes to packages I maintain? > >>>> > >>>> How do people get this type of permission? > >>> > >>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Provenpackager_policy > >>> > >>>> Case in point; > >>> [snip] > >>> > >>> These were properly announced: > >>> > >>> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/thread/RJYQNLIWBAVQPGLIGUT77WGY5D4TK334/ > >>> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/thread/YKPCYY2JJOAQG67X4I6ZNYRHNYDCNQFL/ > >>> > >>> This is proper use of the provenpackager privileges. > >> Which will lead to the instability... IMHO... Allowing people to > >> to change technology that they are clueless of is just wrong. > > > > I think that's exactly the point ;) > > We are allowing people who have the knack and inclination to do "boring" > > cleanups to do them so that _maintainers_ can actually concentrate on > > _technology_. > > > > From your message one could think that the changes are some massive > > reworking, but both commits are completely trivial updates of > > dependencies on package names that have been gone for _years_. > > > > Unless you want to say that the change is somehow wrong, please > > don't say that "poeple [...] are clueless", because that's disingenuous. > Fair enough... "clueless" was probably not the most appropriate > term to use... But I just read this policy. > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Provenpackager_policy > > It is very broad... IHMO.. You open a ticket, get three acks > a boom! You know have complete access every Fedora package > including the kernel... hmm... > > steved. > The kernel is actually blacklisted from proven packager access, you can't make changes there. Apart from that though, I don't really see any reasons for creating this thread. Proven packagers do trivial and non-trivial cleanups all the time. While I agree that a PR would be better, when dealing with changes on a vast amount of packages that should be ideally done in a timely manner, waiting for a timely response from every single maintainer of the respective packages is just not realistic. > > > > Zbyszek > > > >> What is the point of maintainers-ship if any one and everyone can > >> make changes? Any and all changes must go through the maintainer > >> if that is not the case the way even have them? > >> > >> steved. > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>> To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > _______________________________________________ > > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > -- Regards, Charalampos Stratakis Software Engineer Python Maintenance Team, Red Hat _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
