On Fri, Dec 08, 2017 at 11:52:21AM -0500, Steve Dickson wrote: > > > On 12/08/2017 11:28 AM, Kalev Lember wrote: > > On 12/08/2017 05:17 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > >> On Fri, Dec 08, 2017 at 10:59:20AM -0500, Steve Dickson wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> On 12/08/2017 10:12 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > >>>> How would the overhead be lower? Instead of a single clean commit that > >>>> does what needs to be done you want the person doing this cleanup on a > >>>> hundred packages to send you a special message and wait while you make > >>>> the decision whether to allow a three line change or not? Please explain. > >>> Who determines "needs to be done" Shouldn't the owner of the package be in > >>> on the determination, with silents being acceptance after a certain amount > >>> of time? I think so. > >> > >> This is completely infeasible to contact each maintainer individually > >> when doing massive changes. The policy specifies that the mass change > >> should be pre-announced, discussed, and announced on the mailing list. > >> This procedure was followed, the changes are simple and correct. > My apologies for not making myself clear... I understand the > need to make massive changes... The problem I have is a single > change is made because it "feels" right... Those changes need to > go by the maintainer. > > >> > >>> Yes to your second question... For one reason... maintaining stability. > >>> You give people the ability to change anything and everything they > >>> want w/out any review... that is called instability... > >> > >> No, those changes don't have any effect on the way that your package > >> operates, they just change the reference from an obsolete name to > >> one that actually exists. Without such changes we would have more > >> and more obsolete cruft in packages. It's great that somebody is willing > >> to spend their time keeping the distro tidy. Change, if done carefully, > >> does not mean instability. > > > > I wholeheartedly agree with Zbyszek here. Well said. > I too agree WRT massive build and/or changes... but anything > else need to go through them maintainer. Well, it _is_ a massive change: ignatenkobrain is removing references to systemd-units. According to repoquery, in F26 there are 369 packages with R: systemd-units. I'd say that 369 qualifies as "mass". Zbyszek _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx