Re: F28 System Wide Change: Reduce Initial Setup Redundancy

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On 12/05/2017 07:30 AM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote:
Then why disable root at all? What if there are no local user accounts,
only via a directory service and network is down? This change is clearly
not well thought-out. If anything, the redundancy should be reduced on
the GNOME side, not anaconda side, as removing stuff from anaconda
forces alternative desktop environments to reimplement what GNOME does.

We've spend a fair amount of time discussing this change for the past two years (including just a few months ago on this list), so I don't think it's fair to say it is not well thought-out. Setting up such an environment requires significant custom configuration. If you know how to enable a directory service for logins, which is not supported by any graphical tools, then you surely know how to set a root password using passwd. The default Workstation configuration is not relevant in this scenario for that reason alone. Also consider that computers in such an environment are probably installed via kickstart or netinstall anyway, which are unaffected by this change, or at least by a system administrator who can set a root password if desired. Not by end users.

The default install in Fedora Workstation should be optimized for a single, local, administrator user. Having a separate root account enabled is not useful and only leads to confusion. Users do not understand the difference between their administrator password and their separate root password. Prompting users to set two different passwords at install time is confusing and problematic.

Michael
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