On 2 February 2017 9:06:32 pm GMT+00:00, Chris Murphy <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 3:38 AM, David Woodhouse <dwmw2@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >wrote: > >> I'm not sure the upgrade method matters, does it? In both cases I >think >> it was changes to dracut and the way raid was assembled (perhaps >moving >> from automatically in the kernel to doing it in userspace, or vice >> versa). > >The upgrade method does matter because fedup had its own dracut >variant. Systemd offline updates (used also by upgrades) uses the >existing initramfs prior to the upgrade and a special, minimalist, >boot target. So if the system boots normally before the update or >upgrade, it should boot and assemble fine for the offline update. It >could fail following a successful upgrade however - if there's some >new previously undiscovered bug. Fedup has not existed for a few releases now. The upgrades are handled by dnf alone. Dennis > >> >>> > So let's please ensure that we have proper >>> > test coverage for existing systems. >>> >>> Please describe your proposal for ensuring proper test coverage, in >>> particular if you personally aren't able to test what is by >definition >>> a custom layout? >> >> Nono, this *isn't* a custom layout. It's a fairly standard RAID >setup. > >All RAID setups are custom layouts insofar as they're only created >with custom partitioning. There is only one default layout used by the >installer. > > >> But if we change the defaults, then I suppose that retrospetively >> *makes* it a "custom layout"... at least in the sense that we can >> reasonably expect it to keep breaking every release or two :( > >It suggests it's not getting enough testing and asking someone else to >test it probably will have no effect. Again, if there's a particular >layout you want to make sure is working, you need to test it, or maybe >write up an openQA test for it, so it can get automatically tested by >a bot. > > >-- >Chris Murphy >_______________________________________________ >devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx