Re: Two more concrete ideas for what a once-yearly+update schedule would look like

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On Tue, 2016-12-20 at 14:27 +0000, Tom Hughes wrote:
> Surely it's more likely that it just delays the discovery of the
> botched 
> update?

I don't think updates-testing should be batched. Testers should of
course still get all test updates ASAP.

> The only way it reduces the risk of releasing a botched update is
> the 
> the updates somehow get more testing just by staying in the testing 
> channel longer.

...and actual QA, from the professionals and volunteers on the QA team,
who are very good at finding bugs pre-release but currently do zero QA
on our updates because it's an unmanageable rolling stream of a
bazillion separate updates. With batched updates, you can test a batch
with the same overall criteria used for releases to see if it's
botched. That's the advantage of batching over simply extending the
amount of time spent in updates-testing.

> Which makes the question whether botched updates happen because not 
> enough people use testing, or because there are enough people using
> it 
> but they don't have enough time to spot the problems before the
> updates 
> get pushed.

We indeed do not need batched updates to extend the length of time
updates remain in testing. We could (and should) do that immediately.

Michael
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