Options: 1. Keep the mactel-boot stuff (pretty but weird), and write up test cases specifically to account for the weirdness in particular how to reset the state of the computer so it's possible to do clean installs. There are a couple of ways to do this. Burden is on Mac testers. 2. Explore treating Macs like any other kind of EFI computer, which means doing no better than Ubuntu or openSUSE where I think they largely recommend using rEFInd for their bootmanager instead of GRUB. So there's this connotation of being handed off to some other project out of the gate. Easier to test, but puts more burden on all Mac users. 3. Apple has hypervisor.framework which is a user space hypervisor rather than kernel extension based; and might be a suitable way of getting Fedora running on macOS, without depending on VirtualBox. Here's a write up on CoreOS using it. I understand Docker is using it also. https://deis.com/blog/2015/get-started-coreos-os-x/ If there's enough interest, 1 & 3 are possible. If it's a case of interest being on life support then only 1 is possible which probably eventually slides back to 2, where we've been before. Chris Murphy _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx