Re: F24, small backward steps

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For which one of the problems you listed? It would certainly have been interesting to list those in your original mail.

----- Original Message -----
> On 09/13/2016 11:09 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 10:00:32AM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> To be clear, the problem is that a small handful of package maintainers
> >> (including Bastien) are collectively "responsible" for all of the GNOME
> >> and freedesktop components in Fedora (including fprintd), and it's
> >> simply not reasonable to expect them to read all the bugs that are
> >> assigned to them, let alone take the time to forward them upstream. If
> >> you use Red Hat Bugzilla, the right developers may never notice your
> >> bug report at all.
> >>
> >> You have a much better chance filing bugs upstream. You should only use
> >> Red Hat Bugzilla for these components if you happen to know there is a
> >> specific maintainer who actually looks at the Red Hat bugs for that
> >> specific component, or if you're planning to propose it as a release
> >> blocker, or if you just don't care whether anybody sees your bug. If
> >> you have a packaging bug then it's the right place, but please ping
> >> someone to be sure it gets noticed.
> >>
> >> Of course this is not how Bugzilla is intended to work, but it is how
> >> it actually works for GNOME stuff. It's unfortunate, but without some
> >> Launchpad-style automatic bug forwarding, this is going to remain the
> >> case indefinitely.
> > 
> > This is a truly awful experiance from POV of a Fedora user filing bugs :-(
> > We've set a silent trap for them with no warning of the fact that their
> > bug reports are going to be ignored until Fedora EOL procedure closes
> > them :-(
> > 
> > Even if we can't enhance Red hat Bugzilla, we can at least do more to
> > alert users to this so they stand a chance of doing the right thing.
> > 
> > eg, update the component description to tell user to file in GNOME
> > bugzilla instead, and have a bot that adds a comment to any new bugs
> > that are still filed, closing them WONTFIX and asking the user to
> > re-open against upstream GNOME bugzilla, instead of leaving the bug
> > open and ignored until Fedora EOL.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Daniel
> > 
> Thanks for recognizing this.  I am the OP.  I pretty quickly got a
> response suggesting that I file a bug report "upstream".  I did that, or
> so I thought, and immediately got a response from someone that it was
> the wrong place or list followed by another declaring the matter closed.
> I went back to my day job.
> 
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