For which one of the problems you listed? It would certainly have been interesting to list those in your original mail. ----- Original Message ----- > On 09/13/2016 11:09 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 10:00:32AM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> To be clear, the problem is that a small handful of package maintainers > >> (including Bastien) are collectively "responsible" for all of the GNOME > >> and freedesktop components in Fedora (including fprintd), and it's > >> simply not reasonable to expect them to read all the bugs that are > >> assigned to them, let alone take the time to forward them upstream. If > >> you use Red Hat Bugzilla, the right developers may never notice your > >> bug report at all. > >> > >> You have a much better chance filing bugs upstream. You should only use > >> Red Hat Bugzilla for these components if you happen to know there is a > >> specific maintainer who actually looks at the Red Hat bugs for that > >> specific component, or if you're planning to propose it as a release > >> blocker, or if you just don't care whether anybody sees your bug. If > >> you have a packaging bug then it's the right place, but please ping > >> someone to be sure it gets noticed. > >> > >> Of course this is not how Bugzilla is intended to work, but it is how > >> it actually works for GNOME stuff. It's unfortunate, but without some > >> Launchpad-style automatic bug forwarding, this is going to remain the > >> case indefinitely. > > > > This is a truly awful experiance from POV of a Fedora user filing bugs :-( > > We've set a silent trap for them with no warning of the fact that their > > bug reports are going to be ignored until Fedora EOL procedure closes > > them :-( > > > > Even if we can't enhance Red hat Bugzilla, we can at least do more to > > alert users to this so they stand a chance of doing the right thing. > > > > eg, update the component description to tell user to file in GNOME > > bugzilla instead, and have a bot that adds a comment to any new bugs > > that are still filed, closing them WONTFIX and asking the user to > > re-open against upstream GNOME bugzilla, instead of leaving the bug > > open and ignored until Fedora EOL. > > > > Regards, > > Daniel > > > Thanks for recognizing this. I am the OP. I pretty quickly got a > response suggesting that I file a bug report "upstream". I did that, or > so I thought, and immediately got a response from someone that it was > the wrong place or list followed by another declaring the matter closed. > I went back to my day job. > > > -- > Roger Wells, P.E. > leidos > 221 Third St > Newport, RI 02840 > 401-847-4210 (voice) > 401-849-1585 (fax) > roger.k.wells@xxxxxxxxxx > -- > devel mailing list > devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx