On Fri, Jul 01, 2016 at 01:42:40PM -0400, Solomon Peachy wrote: > With very few exceptions (eg Gigabyte's mostly-unobtainable MP30-AR0 or > some locked-down appliance-type servers) they've all been ultra-dense > high-end boxes (dozens of cores per U) priced into the stratosphere or > glorified cell phone devkits (eg Tegra-based stuff) that don't sport > enough memory (or other expandability) to run a modern desktop OS. While I generally agree with what you're saying, I just want to point out a few systems that are available now. The Gigabyte MP30-AR0 can be purchased, eg from https://www.xcase.co.uk/server-motherboards/gigabyte-mp30-ar0-with-appliedmicror-x-gene1r-processor.html It's basically an X-Gene 1 which is 3+ years old at this point (made on an even older process) so don't expect dazzling performance, but this is still a reliable workhorse for development. It boots the upstream kernel, takes up to 128 GB of RAM, and has UEFI (unfortunately not out of the box). I have one, and I can stuff a dozen virtual machines, mixed armv7 & aarch64, without it breaking into a sweat. Just appeared a few days ago is this one: http://www.cnx-software.com/2016/06/26/599-softiron-overdrive-1000-server-is-powered-by-amd-opteron-a1100-64-bit-arm-processor/ Quad core AMD Opteron (codename Seattle, Cortex A57). A bit cheaper than the Gigabyte. UEFI out of the box and comes with SUSE installed. Finally the LeMaker Cello (also quad core AMD Seattle) is maybe/ possibly/probably going to ship this month, at least according to an email that they sent out a couple of days ago. If and when I ever get it I'll write about it on my blog, https://rwmj.wordpress.com/ I think the aarch64 situation - while hardly ideal - is much better than POWER. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones Read my programming and virtualization blog: http://rwmj.wordpress.com virt-df lists disk usage of guests without needing to install any software inside the virtual machine. Supports Linux and Windows. http://people.redhat.com/~rjones/virt-df/ -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
