On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 22:07:24 +0200, you wrote: >On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 15:59:38 -0400 >Solomon Peachy <pizza@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 08:04:57PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: >> > I will just snipe here that the situation would be better if POWER >> > > 4 hardware was generally available to buy. >> >> The upcoming Raptor Talos POWER8 board [1] looks promising, but at >> $3700 a pop just for the motherboard and an entry-level [1] CPU, it's >> out of reach of many otherwise-interested developers. Assuming it >> goes into production at all.. > >unfortunately it does not in foreseeable future (based on official >update on their IRC channel). It was my hope to get newer workstation >class HW and be able to lift the ppc64 (BE) support to Power7 and up >(or so). With the OpenPOWER ecosystem there is still chance someone >else will try it. I wouldn't count on it. To get developers they need to get a CPU/motherboard combination out for under $1000, likely closer to $500, as these will be purchases as a secondary system to "play with" because there is no direct way to make money as a POWER developer (this also applies to Aarch64, which is also looking rather absent). At least for POWER8, this would likely mean someone from OpenPOWER would need to fund the development of a affordable POWER8 chip with no expectation of directly recouping that cost, which seems unlikely. Which is a shame, because with more developers/users there might be more volunteers for Fedora such that a specific POWER8 spin would become viable, helping to solve the current problem. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx