On Thu, 2016-06-02 at 14:19 -0400, Paul Wouters wrote: > > > > On Jun 1, 2016, at 09:48, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > > Any scheme that relies on unprivileged programs "being nice" > > doesn't > > fix the inherent security problem: after logout a user should not > > be > > able consume further runtime resources on the system, regardless if > > he > > does that because of a bug or on purpose. > > You are redefining the meaning of (a graphical) logout. It simply > means another user can use the mouse, > keyboard and screen of this device. It makes no statement on whether > the machines resources are shared or not. > > It allows you to kill anything that has to do with the user > controlling the screen, keyboard and mouse but the killing should be > limited to those processes. And then we are back at "just fix those > broken processes". I think the discussion is starting to go in circles. It is pretty clear that we have different opinions about the desired behavior of logout. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx