Re: systemd 230 change - KillUserProcesses defaults to yes

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> On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 06:51:20PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> > So there's tmux, screen, curl, wget, and probably quite a few others
> > that don't necessarily get daemonized that are probably affected.
> 
> I would really like to see a solution whereby tmux and screen _just
> work_ without any required changes to user behavior. They're basically
> commands which _indicate_ "I want a new session that persists".

Really? The only times I ever used it was to access serial consoles with
a better emulation than separate apps.

> It seems fine to have some administrative option which prevents that,
> but I think allowing that behavior should be the default. That way,
> accidental lingering processes will be cleaned up, but people's
> expectations around tmux/screen will still be met.
> 
> I liked the suggestion of having those programs become "scope" aware
> (https://github.com/tmux/tmux/issues/428) but it looks like upstream
> tmux at least is not keen on it. What can we do instead?

Patch the applications downstream, or document things with enough details
and mention it in the release notes.

Both the writing of the documentation and the patching would show whether
implementing lingering is well documented enough, and viable enough.
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