Re: systemd 230 change - KillUserProcesses defaults to yes

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On Thursday 02 June 2016 14:38:38 Matthias Clasen wrote:
> I think the discussion is starting to go in circles. It is pretty clear
> that we have different opinions about the desired behavior of logout.

I'll take this as an opportunity to raise a separate issue.

The current implementation has only 2 levels of control: global and individual (lingering).
For non-tiny organizations this isn't good enough:
 * I would expect that root may set lingering for *groups* as well.

 * Otherwise, administrators need to set policy per-individual and we are back
   to square one (killing individual user processes).

 * Than we can have better default policy (e.g: members of groups wheel
   and staff have "lingering" on).

 * Example: something similar to access.conf(5) (but "<foo>.d/*.conf" not
   a monolithic file).

 * The design should assume that in the future, large organization would
   expect it their directory service.
   (e.g: like sudoers can now be integrated in IPA).

A separate thought: maybe have a list of exceptions (tmux/screen/vnc/whatever)
                    but this really opens a new can of worms, so it may be
                    better not to mix this with the user/group granularity issue.

Thanks,

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