On Thu, Feb 04, 2016 at 10:04:39AM +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > >Why bureaucracy? > > Because this cannot work without coordination in a multi-admin world > => Fedora is not a Cathedral, so bureaucracy is inevitably required. I don't think this follows. I mean, let's just look at the _metaphor_. Cathedrals have hierarchy and litany — heavyweight roles and processes. Bazaars are self-organizing distributed systems. > It's what buildoverides in releases are aiming, and ... they are a > pain to use and are far from working perfect. And not automated. > >That said, the current idea is to leave Rawhide as is, and add a > >separate "gated" layer. > That gated layer already exists. It is called "releases". That's not working as well as it could. Rawhide is broken too often too easily, leading to too few contributors/developers running it, leading to more problems. And we're not even _really_ gating releases except by hoping someone catches problems in updates-testing. -- Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Fedora Project Leader -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx