RE: Bodhi front page after login

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Ditto!  That seems like a much simpler solution overall.

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John Florian


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Petr Spacek [mailto:pspacek@xxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2015 03:48
> To: devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Bodhi front page after login
> 
> On 11.12.2015 01:34, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 02:57:55PM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> >> On Thu, 10 Dec 2015 15:39:16 +0000
> >> John Florian <john.florian@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>>> From: Michael Schwendt [mailto:mschwendt@xxxxxxxxx]
> >>>> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 14:49
> >>>> To: devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> Subject: Re: Bodhi front page after login
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, 6 Dec 2015 20:17:37 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> As far as I know, bodhi posts to bugzilla tickets about test
> >>>> updates. Unfortunately, it does that too early with a first
> >>>> notification.  Bug reporters read the mail, try to apply the
> >>>> update, but it is not available for download. It has not been
> >>>> pushed, and even when the second notification tells it has been
> >>>> pushed, it has not arrived on mirrors.
> >>>
> >>> This gets me all the time.  Then I simply forget to test the update
> >>> unless it's something I need badly.  Perhaps these two messages in BZ
> >>> should indicate that the update will be available when it reaches the
> >>> mirrors and a 3rd message could indicate when that has happened
> >>> through the use of some mirror probing.  Such a 3rd message should be
> >>> carefully worded to indicate that the package has started reaching
> >>> *some* mirrors and that most should have it within another day.
> >>
> >> How many is some though? And if those happen to not be ones you are
> >> hitting you wouldn't see it then either.
> >>
> >> Perhaps we could get a dnf plugin thats advised in bugs for testers
> >> that checks enabled mirrors, then master mirrors, then koij for a
> >> specific update that someone wants to test? The downsides would be if
> >> everyone just decided to enable it, or if it's only in koji it possibly
> >> wouldn't be signed yet.
> >
> > What about scrapping the existing bugzilla message, and instead posting
> > the direct link to koji download the package:
> >
> > """To test the update now run:
> >       dnf upgrade https://koji.fp.o/update-yyyy/path-to.rpm
> https://koji.fp.o/update-yyyy/path-to-another.rpm
> https://koji.fp.o/update-yyyy/path-to-yet-another.rpm
> >
> > After that go to https://bodhi.fp.o/update-yyyy/ to leave karma.
> > """
> 
> I like this idea!
> 
> > dnf will skip packages that are not already installed with 'upgrade'.
> > Since this would be only run manually, and the dependent packages
> > would be downloaded from mirrors, this shouldn't cause too much load
> > on koji servers. The advantage would be that the message would be
> > actionable and feedback from the bug reporters would be as fast as
> > possible.
> 
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