On 11.12.2015 01:34, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 02:57:55PM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> On Thu, 10 Dec 2015 15:39:16 +0000 >> John Florian <john.florian@xxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>>> From: Michael Schwendt [mailto:mschwendt@xxxxxxxxx] >>>> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 14:49 >>>> To: devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Subject: Re: Bodhi front page after login >>>> >>>> On Sun, 6 Dec 2015 20:17:37 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: >>> >>> >>>> As far as I know, bodhi posts to bugzilla tickets about test >>>> updates. Unfortunately, it does that too early with a first >>>> notification. Bug reporters read the mail, try to apply the >>>> update, but it is not available for download. It has not been >>>> pushed, and even when the second notification tells it has been >>>> pushed, it has not arrived on mirrors. >>> >>> This gets me all the time. Then I simply forget to test the update >>> unless it's something I need badly. Perhaps these two messages in BZ >>> should indicate that the update will be available when it reaches the >>> mirrors and a 3rd message could indicate when that has happened >>> through the use of some mirror probing. Such a 3rd message should be >>> carefully worded to indicate that the package has started reaching >>> *some* mirrors and that most should have it within another day. >> >> How many is some though? And if those happen to not be ones you are >> hitting you wouldn't see it then either. >> >> Perhaps we could get a dnf plugin thats advised in bugs for testers >> that checks enabled mirrors, then master mirrors, then koij for a >> specific update that someone wants to test? The downsides would be if >> everyone just decided to enable it, or if it's only in koji it possibly >> wouldn't be signed yet. > > What about scrapping the existing bugzilla message, and instead posting > the direct link to koji download the package: > > """To test the update now run: > dnf upgrade https://koji.fp.o/update-yyyy/path-to.rpm https://koji.fp.o/update-yyyy/path-to-another.rpm https://koji.fp.o/update-yyyy/path-to-yet-another.rpm > > After that go to https://bodhi.fp.o/update-yyyy/ to leave karma. > """ I like this idea! > dnf will skip packages that are not already installed with 'upgrade'. > Since this would be only run manually, and the dependent packages > would be downloaded from mirrors, this shouldn't cause too much load > on koji servers. The advantage would be that the message would be > actionable and feedback from the bug reporters would be as fast as > possible. -- Petr Spacek @ Red Hat -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
