Re: Bodhi front page after login

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On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 02:57:55PM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Dec 2015 15:39:16 +0000
> John Florian <john.florian@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > > From: Michael Schwendt [mailto:mschwendt@xxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 14:49
> > > To: devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: Re: Bodhi front page after login
> > > 
> > > On Sun, 6 Dec 2015 20:17:37 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:  
> > 
> > 
> > > As far as I know, bodhi posts to bugzilla tickets about test
> > > updates. Unfortunately, it does that too early with a first
> > > notification.  Bug reporters read the mail, try to apply the
> > > update, but it is not available for download. It has not been
> > > pushed, and even when the second notification tells it has been
> > > pushed, it has not arrived on mirrors.  
> > 
> > This gets me all the time.  Then I simply forget to test the update
> > unless it's something I need badly.  Perhaps these two messages in BZ
> > should indicate that the update will be available when it reaches the
> > mirrors and a 3rd message could indicate when that has happened
> > through the use of some mirror probing.  Such a 3rd message should be
> > carefully worded to indicate that the package has started reaching
> > *some* mirrors and that most should have it within another day.
> 
> How many is some though? And if those happen to not be ones you are
> hitting you wouldn't see it then either. 
> 
> Perhaps we could get a dnf plugin thats advised in bugs for testers
> that checks enabled mirrors, then master mirrors, then koij for a
> specific update that someone wants to test? The downsides would be if
> everyone just decided to enable it, or if it's only in koji it possibly
> wouldn't be signed yet. 

What about scrapping the existing bugzilla message, and instead posting
the direct link to koji download the package:

"""To test the update now run:
      dnf upgrade https://koji.fp.o/update-yyyy/path-to.rpm https://koji.fp.o/update-yyyy/path-to-another.rpm https://koji.fp.o/update-yyyy/path-to-yet-another.rpm

After that go to https://bodhi.fp.o/update-yyyy/ to leave karma.
"""

dnf will skip packages that are not already installed with 'upgrade'.
Since this would be only run manually, and the dependent packages
would be downloaded from mirrors, this shouldn't cause too much load
on koji servers. The advantage would be that the message would be
actionable and feedback from the bug reporters would be as fast as
possible.

Zbyszek
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