On 05/01/15 10:04, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote:
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On 02/01/15 11:42, Richard Hughes wrote:
Because as of now, gnome-software just doesn't fit the workstation bill
I think you're misunderstanding what most developers do. We probably
spend about 10 minutes installing development packages (on the command
line) when setting up a new OS instance. I then spend a year or so of
installing or removing the odd application, and a few minutes every
week applying updates. I don't think GNOME Software is hugely useful
for installing low-level developer packages, which is fine. It doesn't
mean it's not a useful application.
I don't know if "most" developers works with more or less just one
toolchain and environment as you describe. At least "some" actually
works in a lot of projects, with different development packages and
sometimes also tools.
That said, what about describing the developer usecase as a project,
focusing on a user using both GUI and CLI tools?
- Get the sources (if they exist).
- Install a toolchain, GUI-based or not.
- Install dependencies: -devel packages, interpreted modules, etc.
- Install project- or user-specific tools (GUI or not).
- Keeping the installed sw updated.
Installing the toolchain seems like DevAssistant to me. Besides this, I
understand your position as if users are supposed to use yum/dnf except
for GUI development tools and their dependencies (?)
Currently DevAssistant "assistants" (read: plugins) that we have in Fedora are more of "kickstart a new project and install deps along" rather than "install a toolchain and perhaps do some other environment setup". This can however be easily extended by writing different plugins that will do just that.
E.g. I can imagine us having "da prep fedora-dev c" (which will BTW automatically gain a clickable counterpart in GUI) that will setup development environment for C (and similar for other languages). We can even provide some choices like --use-eclipse, --use-whatever-other-IDE, ... I'm willing to put my work into this, but I'm mostly a Python developer, so I'd need input from people working with languages.
Does that sound worth pursuing?
FYI: I have filed an RFE with gnome-software regarding ordering of the
search results, which should significantly help bringing DevAssistant
Assistants to the top:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=742388
Tomas Radej
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