On 2 January 2015 at 10:02, Alec Leamas <leamas.alec@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Here is a some common ground, indeed. Seems that we agree on that installing > CLI stuff is something that should be handled in a developer-oriented > workstation If you're using gcc, you're using a terminal. We supply two command line package managers (dnf, yum) which allow you to do this. If you're using eclipse, then we already allow applications to install addons for different use-cases (which can have deps like gcc), > Now, in my mind installing/updating non-GUI software is not a corner-case > for a developer - it's probably the most common installation done even when > working with GUI tools. Citation needed. > From this perspective, I guess that if gnome-software (g-s) upstream defines > installing CLI stuff as something which should be handled by "something > else", I cannot really see the point handling updates in g-s. I don't see how you've got to this logic at all. > In the end, isn't this one hand about if gnome-software's upstream is > willing to undertake the work to adapt also to the developer usecase? No! GNOME Software is designed as an application installer for GNOME. We're using gnome-software in Fedora workstation, but that doesn't mean that the upstream application has to align with the workstation PRD 100% or else it's "not suitable". > Because as of now, gnome-software just doesn't fit the workstation bill I think you're misunderstanding what most developers do. We probably spend about 10 minutes installing development packages (on the command line) when setting up a new OS instance. I then spend a year or so of installing or removing the odd application, and a few minutes every week applying updates. I don't think GNOME Software is hugely useful for installing low-level developer packages, which is fine. It doesn't mean it's not a useful application. Rather than talking in riddles in your emails, could you also please suggest what needs to be done? Are you in favour of ripping out gnome-software and installing yumex in the workstation image? Do you have an alternate application proposal with design mockups? Richard -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
