Re: Ramblings and questions regarding Fedora, but stemming from gnome-software and desktop environments

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On 30/12/14 12:34 PM, Alec Leamas wrote:
On 30/12/14 20:57, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote:
On 29/12/14 04:33 AM, Alec Leamas wrote:

This certainly works, but is it really a reasonable trade-off in a
developer context where things like compilers and interpreters are
part of the very core? What role does Gnome Software play here? How
fruitful is the idea to hide packages in this context?

Compiler and  interpreters i.e.Glade having GUI and implements app-data
(supposedly mandatory starting on Fedora 22)  will be displayed on Gnome
Software.

Glade is neither a compiler nor an interpreter, it's an IDE.
My bad.

Gnome Software is to abstract the package concept to only
focus on applications accessible to desktop.

Agreed. And I can see some usecases where this makes a lot of sense.

But the question then becomes if this is the proper thing to do for the Workstation target user which is a developer. As such, she will in many cases want to install things like gcc, different python stacks using collections, text processing tools and so on. None of which with a GUI. She will also sometimes be interested in multiple desktops for testing etc., causing the "MATE apps not visible" problem.

What about DevAssistant that comes with Fedora Workstation? Have you tried it? MATE apps not visible means they needed app-data included on their .desktop files hence the pleas from Richard Hughes. The case of multiple desktop installation reaches advanced use territory meaning advanced tool like yumex.
Bottom line: isn't there is a mismatch between Gnome Software (GUI applications only) and the idea of a developer using both CLI and GUI tools? And if so, how should it be handled?


No. Fedora Workstation already provided needed tools for CLI like Gnome Terminal included by default.


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