----- Original Message ----- > On 02/01/15 11:42, Richard Hughes wrote: > > >> Because as of now, gnome-software just doesn't fit the workstation bill > > > > I think you're misunderstanding what most developers do. We probably > > spend about 10 minutes installing development packages (on the command > > line) when setting up a new OS instance. I then spend a year or so of > > installing or removing the odd application, and a few minutes every > > week applying updates. I don't think GNOME Software is hugely useful > > for installing low-level developer packages, which is fine. It doesn't > > mean it's not a useful application. > > I don't know if "most" developers works with more or less just one > toolchain and environment as you describe. At least "some" actually > works in a lot of projects, with different development packages and > sometimes also tools. > > That said, what about describing the developer usecase as a project, > focusing on a user using both GUI and CLI tools? > > - Get the sources (if they exist). > - Install a toolchain, GUI-based or not. > - Install dependencies: -devel packages, interpreted modules, etc. > - Install project- or user-specific tools (GUI or not). > - Keeping the installed sw updated. > > Installing the toolchain seems like DevAssistant to me. Besides this, I > understand your position as if users are supposed to use yum/dnf except > for GUI development tools and their dependencies (?) Currently DevAssistant "assistants" (read: plugins) that we have in Fedora are more of "kickstart a new project and install deps along" rather than "install a toolchain and perhaps do some other environment setup". This can however be easily extended by writing different plugins that will do just that. E.g. I can imagine us having "da prep fedora-dev c" (which will BTW automatically gain a clickable counterpart in GUI) that will setup development environment for C (and similar for other languages). We can even provide some choices like --use-eclipse, --use-whatever-other-IDE, ... I'm willing to put my work into this, but I'm mostly a Python developer, so I'd need input from people working with languages. Does that sound worth pursuing? -- Regards, Slavek Kabrda -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
