On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Tom Rivers <tom@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
My point was to say Linux users are usually more tech savvy than XBox and Playstation users. If they say they have a high speed connection and they don't and that decision ends up costing them more money in ISP costs, then that's on them. Still, that's really not the crux of what I've been trying to say.
That wasn't quite my point. What I was attempting to convey is that people with high bandwidth connections would be choosing that option because they would believe it would be "more better" - regardless of whether or not they cared much about speeding up their updates. I would venture to say for the vast majority of users, any time savings really doesn't matter. They just don't care. However, choosing that option would have real implications upstream. All of a sudden more repositories would be called upon to deliver full RPMs... that is alot more bandwidth, which translates to $$$. Regardless of whether or not it is a university or even Redhat... everyone has a budget, and they would be concerned about increased costs. Many people don't understand networks; they think it's just an unlimited resource that is free. Nothing more could be further from the truth. When people see the costs they say WTF and quickly change their tune. I understand that thankfully DNF will keep Presto as the default; but if the issue is revisited people need to realize it isn't just about them - there are implications upstream - and I believe if they were presented the bill, they would quickly say "oh, it's not that important to wait an extra few minutes to have my updates applied".
The bottom line is Presto needs to be improved. That is the solution. In the meantime if people want to download full RPMs they are free to change the option themselves - and they should be happy it isn't default; because if it were and everyone was downloading full RPMs they would most likely see that repository circuits become saturated and their downloads would come screeching to a halt.
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