Re: New Group Calls For Boycotting Systemd

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On Mon, Sep 08, 2014 at 08:36:21AM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> On Sun, 2014-09-07 at 22:18 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > >  - has tools for setting the system time and timezone, and locale
> > 
> > Sure. They're useful.
> 
> In GNOME, our settings panels previously only worked on Fedora and
> Debian, with some half-functional code for Arch and openSUSE, because
> each distro handled these differently and required custom code. Now we
> have no special casing for different distros, and it works everywhere
> these D-Bus interfaces are present (including systems without systemd
> that provide it, like Ubuntu).

Yeah, that was nice, when it worked as we wanted. Unfortunately, with
the latest systemd the NTP service which is enabled/disabled by
timedated is no longer selected from the services installed on the
systemd, but is now hardcoded to the systemd SNTP client (timesyncd).

That means the NTP status reported in GNOME settings may be incorrect,
enabling/disabling NTP will do nothing if another NTP service is enabled
or timesyncd will be enabled even when our default NTP client
(chronyd) is installed.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1136905

Upstream is not interesting in having this configurable. Should we be
patching timedated? Or GNOME?

> I don't really care where these interfaces live, but they need to exist
> somewhere, and systemd seems like the logical place for them.

Agreed, the problem is systemd upstream may have a different view on
what exactly the interfaces should do.

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