Le Mer 6 novembre 2013 19:24, Josh Boyer a écrit : > I'm just having trouble wrapping my head around the intense focus on a > new app packaging technology when the entire distro is making massive > changes to how it's produced. Because all distributions can and do ship the same software and the main thing that differences distributions is attention to packaging. What build the Fedora brand is in huge part the hard work of packagers over the years and careful definition of packaging guidelines. There have been many people that claimed this process was awful in the past and their alternatives all sank. Mainly because they were addressing developer problems (freedom to take all the shortcuts that make integration hard and users miserable) and thought they would win marketshare this way (hint: you do not win marketshare by solving developer problems you win marketshare by solving user problems. Users always voted with their feet and rejected the developer-friendly solutions that made their own life harder). So what makes this initiative different? I guess that's because it promotes itself as making it possible to get software in Fedora, competing with and disparaging the work of packagers while hijacking the brand they helped building. Get this thing its own name. Let it win or lose user confidence on its own merit, and don't confuse users with "in Fedora" claims when you're absolutely *not* offering the same thing "in Fedora" means now. Right now this proposal has the potential to ruin user trust and become the same thorn nvidia drivers are for xorg and kernel people now. Of course people who build this trust do not like it. Is that clearer? Regards, -- Nicolas Mailhot -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct