Am 03.11.2013 18:28, schrieb Chris Murphy: > On Nov 3, 2013, at 7:10 AM, Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> What we have now is: >> * a free-of-charge repository with central QA ensuring that everything works >> together, >> * a commitment of that repository to ship only Free Software and active >> auditing to ensure that, >> * client tooling automatically resolving dependencies, avoiding the need to >> bundle libraries (see also >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:No_Bundled_Libraries), >> * ergo, an installation procedure of "fire up 'Apper (Software Management)', >> enter the package name or some search terms or browse the categories for >> the package, click Install, confirm, (enter root password) (*), use the >> application", as user-friendly as it can get. >> >> What we would have in an "app" world would be: >> * every upstream attempting to distribute applications themselves, forcing >> users to hunt down their websites one by one to get software, >> * no control whatsoever over licensing, not even a way to check that what >> claims to be "open source" really is (our auditing has found all sorts of >> licenses with bad terms, bundled code under non-free licenses, etc.), >> * giving more viability to all sorts of payware models and the proprietary >> license restrictions (no redistribution etc.) that are usually used to >> enforce payment, >> * massive bundling and the resulting disk space and security issues. >> >> We DON'T want Apple-like "apps"! > > Right, because that's a model for success that shouldn't be either emulated or improved upon if success is * to have no centralized updates * have most applicatons and tools never updated at all * have the weakest security model even compared to Windows these days * have a standards violating OS * have a unstable OS and all above points are taken from Apple workstations surrounding me then indeed i prefer to keep that unsuccesfull as Fedora was while doing a great job for me the last 7 years as for many others since it is a free operating system it does not need to be commerical successfull and so it needs to satisfy it's *existing* and potential userbase but not obsessive attrative for *everybody* fit for everybodys needs often at the end of the day means you can do anything but nothing really good - that's a bad target - keep focused and doing that things *really good* is the better attitude in doubt
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