On 07/17/2013 03:21 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 07/17/2013 01:08 PM, Denys Vlasenko wrote: >> Engineer does not know what version of OS that server runs, >> what is installed there and how it is configured. >> So it needs to be investigated. Quite a typical situation. > > Perhaps for you but for us here on top of the world > we dont grant root access to people that cant event > tell which OS and which release that OS is running > on so that's quite un-typical situation for me. I don't know about your organization, but ours is not arrogant enough to tell our customers - the people who buy our engineering support, and thus indirectly pay all our salaries, how, or who is allowed to run their servers. Because it's *their servers*. Not ours. IF they have incompetent admins, it's their problems. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel