On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Lennart Poettering <mzerqung@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > But this specific usecase certainly warranted this, and the > journal does deliver the requirements we cared for. I'm sure it does. But I think those requirements mainly apply to servers and enterprise installations, not the average Fedora installation. For the most common use case, doing without /var/log/messages just makes things more complicated for the user and/or sysadmin. I'm all for being able to get fancy binary journals as a configurable option. Or even by default, as long as it doesn't take away also getting a text log by default as well. Eric -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel