On Mon, 15.07.13 13:53, Matthew Miller (mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > If we're going to do a survey, I can think of bigger questions to ask than > that. :) But, in any case, this is certainly not the way Fedora is supposed > to operate. > > Change for its own sake isn't good, and I have had my share of frustrations > with systemd and some degree of pain with journald growing pains too, but, > from the page describing Fedora's mission, " The Fedora Project always > strives to lead, not follow." (Just to mention this: we are neither the pioneer on the no-default-syslog feature nor on no-default-sendmail... A lot of other distros stopped installing an MTA by default a long time ago -- including Ubuntu since 2007 or so -- and some others have switched to only-journal mode already too -- for example ArchLinux So, we are just following on these ones, on the sendmail thing even with a 6 year lag...) Lennart -- Lennart Poettering - Red Hat, Inc. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel