On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Lennart Poettering <mzerqung@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > (Just to mention this: we are neither the pioneer on the > no-default-syslog feature nor on no-default-sendmail... A lot of other > distros stopped installing an MTA by default a long time ago -- > including Ubuntu since 2007 or so -- and some others have switched to > only-journal mode already too -- for example ArchLinux > > So, we are just following on these ones, on the sendmail thing even with > a 6 year lag...) I can see advantages to not having an MTA by default, but I don't see the advantage in not having /var/log/messages. I don't want to have to use special tools in place of a text editor, grep, etc. As I said elsewhere, I don't care whether /var/log/messages is written by syslog or by systemd, but the default should still be to provide it. It's fine by me if the default is to generate a binary journal IN ADDITION to /var/log/messages. Eric -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
