On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Lennart Poettering <mzerqung@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > It's a matter of finding the right balance: i.e. what can be text files, > and where we have to win more by making it binary. I am pretty sure this > is a case where we win more by sticking to binary files. It's totally > fine if you disagree on this, but I'd still like to ask you to think > about whether your specific usecase and specific requirements are strong > enough to (continue to) be the default for Fedora, instead of just being > your local configuration of Fedora. > > I mean, you should never forget that on your own machines everything > will stay as is: you will install syslog, and things will be exactly as > before. I have thought a lot about usecases, and it's exactly because I have to maintain other people's systems that use the default installation, and I routinely have to use more, less, cat, grep, vi, etc. on /var/log/messages that I don't want to see it go away. It's far easier for me to tell someone a grep command on the phone than to also have to tell them to run some other tool and pipe the input into grep, or into a temp file that I can have them look at in an editor. /var/log/messages is there, it works, and it is BETTER than a binary format even if it doesn't contain as much information. Eric -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel