On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I just want to look at the file without having to learn to type journalctl > isn't very compelling to me, even though I do recognize the change cost. > > However, the diagnostic value of an easily-accessible /var/log/messages is > pretty high How are those two statements not contradictory? Either an easily-accessible /var/log/messages is of high value, or it isn't. > and I think there are real use cases there. I'm not convinced > that this needs to be at the minimal level, though, and I'm not sure it > should be the default for the desktop case, either. > > And, in other cases, you're probably customizing your package install set > anyway, right? (And, probably logging to a remote host.) On the desktop is exactly where I think it's important to keep /var/log/messages. On servers it is expected that sysadmins will do a lot of unique configuration. Eric -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
