----- Original Message ----- > On 05/03/2013 01:40 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> FWIW I agree with the general trend of discussion so far: let's find > >> things to drop that don't really need to be on the DVD so we can keep > >> MATE and Cinnamon. You can install those from live images or from repos > >> of course, just like anything else, but they are things it makes a deal > >> of sense to provide for offline users - probably more so than many of > >> the candidates for removal so far - and there is a substantial PR > >> benefit to including them. > > It's good PR to have Mate and Cinnamon, another question is - with > > Gnome Classic session - wouldn't be better to point our users to it now? > > > > But I tend to agree with trend - aim on users with DVDs, developers are > > usually able to bring stuff for theirs development needs (and there are > > much more options to select the right set than desktops). So count me > > +1 to remove it. > > > >> To address a couple of other points that have come up: the world > >> certainly hasn't reached the point where we can target DL DVDs or huge > >> USB sticks and forget about the SL DVD target, no. We still have > >> significant usage of the DVD images, ambassadors can confirm this. > > See my comment - Ambassadors can't confirm that - we do not distribute > > it any more. One more reason I forgot to mention: it's cheaper to produce > > more Multi Live DVDs - we get discount based on pieces in batch. > > > > Jaroslav > > Why bother with the DVD et all and enter countless debates what should > and should not be on it. > > Why not just make the assumption that administrators will use the > netinstall and or ks and desktop users will use live spins? I have to admit - I'm in favour of your suggestion. Just I have not stated it as clearly as you! Jaroslav > > JBG > -- > devel mailing list > devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel