The F19 DVD is currently *way* over size. (i686: 417MB, x86_64: 311MB). That's almost certainly more than can be fixed by trimming around the edges; we need to remove actual functionality that's on the DVD. Options include: 1) One/some of the desktops F19 DVD currently includes - GNOME - KDE - XFCE - LXDE - Sugar - MATE (new in F19) - Cinnamon (new in F19) 2) The web server environment Contains web server and web server runtimes (PHP, JBoss, Mongo, perl, python, rails) 3) The developer & content creator workstation Contains the web server stuff above, Eclipse, developer tools, designer tools, Fedora packaging tools, and so on. Opinions? Bill -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel