On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Bill Nottingham <notting@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > The F19 DVD is currently *way* over size. (i686: 417MB, x86_64: 311MB). > That's almost certainly more than can be fixed by trimming around the > edges; we need to remove actual functionality that's on the DVD. > > Options include: > > 1) One/some of the desktops > > F19 DVD currently includes > - GNOME > - KDE > - XFCE > - LXDE > - Sugar > - MATE (new in F19) > - Cinnamon (new in F19) > > 2) The web server environment > > Contains web server and web server runtimes (PHP, JBoss, Mongo, perl, > python, rails) > > 3) The developer & content creator workstation > > Contains the web server stuff above, Eclipse, developer tools, designer > tools, Fedora packaging tools, and so on. > > Opinions? > > Bill > -- > devel mailing list > devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel In regards to MATE + Cinnamon: MATE + Cinnamon fit on F18 x86_64 DVD but not the i686 DVD. The i686 and x86_64 have different sizes (one reason was due to including the PAE and non PAE kernels). That being said Cinnamon IS broken in F19 but it is only 2 packages on top of Gnome 3.. cinnamon and muffin. We expect to have it working by release and upstream is working on a fix, in fact I made some progress last night and have Cinnamon 2D mode working. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=920320 Lots of other distros are dropping Cinnamon because of this. Let's not be THAT distro. Also after spending a lot of time the last few days trying to compose the MATE liveCD a lot of unneeded dependencies were being pulled. I think we should look at package dependencies. It seems that lots of unnecessary packages are being pulled when composing media. Just my experience over the last few days. Dan -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel