----- Original Message ----- > FWIW I agree with the general trend of discussion so far: let's find > things to drop that don't really need to be on the DVD so we can keep > MATE and Cinnamon. You can install those from live images or from repos > of course, just like anything else, but they are things it makes a deal > of sense to provide for offline users - probably more so than many of > the candidates for removal so far - and there is a substantial PR > benefit to including them. It's good PR to have Mate and Cinnamon, another question is - with Gnome Classic session - wouldn't be better to point our users to it now? But I tend to agree with trend - aim on users with DVDs, developers are usually able to bring stuff for theirs development needs (and there are much more options to select the right set than desktops). So count me +1 to remove it. > To address a couple of other points that have come up: the world > certainly hasn't reached the point where we can target DL DVDs or huge > USB sticks and forget about the SL DVD target, no. We still have > significant usage of the DVD images, ambassadors can confirm this. See my comment - Ambassadors can't confirm that - we do not distribute it any more. One more reason I forgot to mention: it's cheaper to produce more Multi Live DVDs - we get discount based on pieces in batch. Jaroslav > -- > Adam Williamson > Fedora QA Community Monkey > IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora > http://www.happyassassin.net > > -- > devel mailing list > devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel