Debarshi Ray wrote: > It is a bit strange that we freeze before the release, and then move > on to a Rawhide like environment where anything can be pushed by > anybody at any point in time. And the answer to that is to find a way to drop or relax the release freezes. (I'd suggest to have Bodhi distinguish between 3 targets instead of 2 in pre-release freeze periods: testing, stable (0-day updates) and freeze_override. Then stable would be open for pushes just like after the release, and freeze_override would be controlled as stable is now (and updates pending approval for freeze_override would automatically get pushed to stable in the meantime).) That would help solving a lot of problems, including but not limited to upgrade path issues around release day. > We have been working around this by semi-formally co-ordinating all > GNOME updates to stable releases. We're doing the same for KDE updates, but for a simple reason: upstream releases the packages at the same time and users are expected to use matching versions, so it wouldn't make sense to split things. Updating a coherent stack that is released by upstream as such in one batch makes a lot of sense, of course. But IMHO, that approach doesn't make much (if any) sense if the upstream releases are not coordinated. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel