Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > Take Fn-1 - it's almost dead, nearly nobody cares about it anymore > (as bugfixes/backporting are costly), and I'd say with our ability > to push security updates... It's non sense to have it as supported > release. That's a result of the karma system. Most people have just given up trying to push updates to Fn-1 because they never get any karma. The people enthousiastic about giving karma are all running Fn or even Fn+1 (Branched). Even for (sets of) packages which do get tested (e.g. the KDE 4.10.1 update group), one has to send mail to mailing lists to remind people to give karma. Many maintainers are fed up of having to beg for karma each time and so just give up supporting the release. This is the same phenomenon that killed Fedora Legacy. We need to get rid of karma and put power (and trust!) back into the hands of the maintainers, and Fn-1 will florish again! Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel