On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Lennart Poettering wrote: >> There is no Fedora 20 rawhide. > > There will be one in less than 4 weeks. > >> (and as mentioned, exorcising CK from packages is rather simple usually, >> as in most cases you will just delete code, not add new code). > > I don't think that's true. As far as I know, LightDM relies on ConsoleKit > for some essential functionality, and upstream has zero interest in systemd > given that they're Ubuntu. So there is one person at Fedora / Red Hat who is > trying to port it to systemd all alone, he's not done yet. I don't know what > the state of the other affected packages is, but I assume there's also more > to do than just disabling ConsoleKit support or it would have been already > done (as we did for KDM long ago). For example, if a desktop (or even a > display manager, like LightDM) wants to use ConsoleKit for shutdown/restart > or, worse (in terms of porting effort), user switching, this all has to be > ported to systemd, not just disabled. > > I agree that ConsoleKit needs to go away, but FIRST all packages using it > must be ported away from it, THEN it can be retired. > > Kevin Kofler > > -- > devel mailing list > devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel This was exactly my point. MATE Desktop being dependent on LightDM in Fedora (that can possibly be changed). However if LightDM had full systemd/logind support then I'm all for it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe XFCE, LXDE and MATE all use LightDM and I think there were plans to get rid of KDM on KDE in favor of LightDM as well. Thanks, Dan -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel