Lennart Poettering wrote: > There is no Fedora 20 rawhide. There will be one in less than 4 weeks. > (and as mentioned, exorcising CK from packages is rather simple usually, > as in most cases you will just delete code, not add new code). I don't think that's true. As far as I know, LightDM relies on ConsoleKit for some essential functionality, and upstream has zero interest in systemd given that they're Ubuntu. So there is one person at Fedora / Red Hat who is trying to port it to systemd all alone, he's not done yet. I don't know what the state of the other affected packages is, but I assume there's also more to do than just disabling ConsoleKit support or it would have been already done (as we did for KDM long ago). For example, if a desktop (or even a display manager, like LightDM) wants to use ConsoleKit for shutdown/restart or, worse (in terms of porting effort), user switching, this all has to be ported to systemd, not just disabled. I agree that ConsoleKit needs to go away, but FIRST all packages using it must be ported away from it, THEN it can be retired. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel