Peter Robinson wrote: > In the case of esound I think we're better killing them because I suspect > in all cases the packages are either: > - optional packages better served by either native PA or alsa support in > other sub/related packages > - disable the esd support and just use the native alsa/oss in the package Actually, several of those games support ONLY esd for sound. Disabling esd = disabling sound in those games. Not so nice, considering that PulseAudio still supports the ESD protocol just fine. Now if Lennart is going to drop the protocol support from PulseAudio, then libesd will have to go away as well, but if it's just about Fedora maintainership, then the maintainer(s) of one or more of the affected packages should just take it over. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel