On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Debarshi Ray <rishi.is@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > For starters: > https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/669 Uhm that ticket is specifically about a feature proposal to include something as a default installed tech. We are not talking about AOO as a default installed package. You are conflating issues. Which is exactly what I politely asked that you avoid. Maybe if I say pretty please. Pretty please, don't mix up discussion about defaults with mere existence. zif and smart and dpkg as installable software are well within line for the repository collection. The mere existence of these as packaged technologies in our software repository is not a problem as user installable payloads. If this were a proposal to make AOO a default installed package for any official spin or install target for any pre-composed media image we provide as a project...I'll be right there with you shaking my fist and pressing the case for LO as the one and true default for situation which requires an office suite to be installed. But we aren't talking about that, so my i'm keeping my ire holstered. -jef -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel