On Wed, 14.11.12 10:34, John.Florian@xxxxxxxx (John.Florian@xxxxxxxx) wrote: > > From: Chris Adams <cmadams@xxxxxxxxxx> > > > > Well, as soon as you have cron, you'll have things wanting to send > > email, and even sendmail mail to "root" on the local system requires > > some type of MTA in most cases. > > >From my experience, an MTA is still not required. Any stdout/err from the > cron jobs just go to the syslog, but this may be systemd's journal magic > that I've been seeing. cronie is actually able to log the cron output to syslog since a long time. I haven't been running MTAs on any of my machines for a many years now. If you deinstall the MTA then cronie will log a error message that sendmail wasn't around, and then go on and log job output to syslog. This error message is really pointless and should go away. Honestly, we really should drop sendmail from the default install of *all* systems, not just the minimal installations. It is simply not useful without configuration, and nothing else we install requires it, not even cronie. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering - Red Hat, Inc. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel