On Fri, 02 Nov 2012 13:22:21 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > I disagree. It's usable by the kind of people who use Fedora. Who like > shiny cutting-edge stuff and don't mind dealing with wonkiness > constantly. I wouldn't dream of putting any regular person on a Fedora > install, quite frankly. It's easy to get into a perspective bubble where > Fedora looks normal, but it isn't. It is not a stable general-purpose > operating system and it's absurd to represent it as such. I wouldn't put > Fedora 17 on my uncle Bob's computer (I don't have an uncle Bob, this is > just your hackneyed old 'regular person' example) and say 'there's your > computer'. How many of us would? Even if you get a good Fedora release Completely agree with Adam ... I was working on the solution for my family (both my wife and kids are on Linux, of course). After having my wife on Fedora for some time and listening to her constant complaints about awful amount of updates she doesn't care for and doesn't want to have installed all the time (BTW, could somebody fix PackageKit updates so that it actually can keep system updated for a long period of time without needed intervention on the command line from time to time?). In the end I have switched her to CentOS+EPEL+some-rpmfusion-packages-which- were-not-avaliable and she is a very happy lady. Updates are reasonable and system will hopefully hold together for a long time. Best, Matěj -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel