On Mon, 2012-06-18 at 16:32 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > if things are working fine they do not need to be reinvented > and developed forever - the problem i see the last years is > that way to often are wroking things replaced because people > can not life with the fact that things sometimes are finished > and good as they are One trigger for the current proposal was the discovery, quite late in F17 cycle, that if you reboot while PK is automatically installing security updates, you can entirely screw your system. We shipped F16 with PackageKit set up, by default, to silently automatically install security updates. If you leave this as it is, and just use and reboot the system as normal, there is a small but not insignificant chance that you will eventually wind up with a completely broken system, when you happen to reboot just as PK is halfway through updating glibc or something. So no, things are clearly not good 'as they are'. One obvious 'fix' for the above bug was not to automatically install security updates any more, and that's the band-aid we used for F17, but obviously once you come across that issue and start thinking in broader terms about how we _ought_ to handle updates on the desktop, it's reasonable to wind up thinking up the plan encapsulated by this feature. I can't find the bug # for the above bug, unfortunately, but hughsie probably has it handy. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel