On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 2:08 PM, drago01 <drago01@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > A new feature is being added nothing is getting removed so no there is > no regression. Thats newspeak if I ever saw any. Going from a system which generally doesn't prompt users to reboot to one that does is a regression. > dbus is not optional. Not including it would mean throw out half of the distro. > And no idea what that has to do with systemd either. > > Randomly blame stuff does not help your point. I was not "randomly blaming" I was copying from Richard Hughes message. He said these services need system reboots for upgrades. "That isn't what we signed up for" > I am not seeing any bad effects here ... I am seeing a feature > proposal that tries to solve a problem that you dismiss as non > existent while it is. I haven't personally experienced problems with this but I trust that there are problems. Causing users to need to reboot for updates does not solve the problem— it masks it. And masking can be a fine "solution" where its harmless, but it certainly isn't here. The reboot for upgrades stuff in windows is one of the most often cited annoying anti-features, so it's understandable why people would throw stones at something that looked like it was emulating it. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
