On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Gerry Reno <greno@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 06/04/2012 10:24 AM, Jon Ciesla wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Gerry Reno <greno@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> On 06/01/2012 03:56 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote: >>>> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Gerry Reno <greno@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> Drive manufacturers need to do nothing. >>>>> >>>>> One drive probably SSD at this point, gets dedicated to OS. Other drive to everything else. >>>>> >>>>> The read-write controllable interfaces already exist as I pointed out and are in use by forensic firms. >>>> And how many consumer OEMs ship them? >>>> >>>> -J >>> Any Chinese fab would be able to produce any quantity needed within weeks to any number of OEM's. >> Key words, "would be able". What OEM ships this *today*? That's my point. >> >>>>> There are plenty of buttons/keys on machines right now that can be used to toggle this interface. >>>>> >>>>> It's 100% doable today with existing hardware. >>>>> >>>>> >>> The whole point is that is that I provided just one example of an equally effective solution to SecureBoot that has much >>> less impact on both Microsoft and Linux. The entire x86 industry is going to become a mess if SecureBoot is >>> implemented. It'll be signature-HELL and a lot more. >>> >>> This whole SecureBoot runaway train needs to have the brakes slammed on. >> I'm not saying I love SecureBoot, but that ship has sailed. > > Yes, and just like the Titanic it will have a lasting horrible impact. I'm not disputing that that's a possibility. I'm just arguing that in lieu of a better solution being available on hardware that's either currently available or shipping in a Windows 8/Fedora 18-19 timeframe, I can see why the decision that was made was made. My opinion on SecureBoot, my opinion of Microsoft's Windows 8 certification requirements around SecureBoot, and my opinion on Fedora's actions to mitigate a bad situation are 3 distinct things. -J > Gerry > >> I also >> wish Amiga hadn't futzed with their floppy drive stepper motors to >> squeeze in more sectors per disk and made my floppies unreadable >> without a trip to eBay, but that ship has sailed as well, so I pretty >> have to find the best solution available for the situation at hand. >> >> I would love for SecureBoot not to have happened, or to have happened >> differently. If wishes were horses, even the poor would eat. >> >> -J >> >> > > -- > devel mailing list > devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- http://cecinestpasunefromage.wordpress.com/ ------------------------------------------------ in your fear, seek only peace in your fear, seek only love -d. bowie -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
