Chris Adams wrote: > - Secure boot is required to be able to be disabled on x86 (the only > platform Fedora will support it). And this is exactly why we should just require our users to disable it! I don't see any advantage at all from supporting this "feature", just problems: * extra restrictions added to GRUB and the kernel to comply with the "security" (lockout) requirements. Even if they're all conditional on "secure" boot being enabled (are they really?), that still means extra code which can cause extra breakage even when running in normal mode (the one every Free Software user should be using). * possible GPL violation. Did Red Hat Legal have a look at the plans already? Are they sure they're compliant with the GPL, v2 when it comes to the kernel, v3 when it comes to GRUB 2? (What's sure is that they aren't compliant with the spirit of the GPL, whatever version!) * ineffectiveness of the added restrictions: Can't you still bring up a "Blue Pill" with a Window$ VM even with only unsigned userspace apps? And if we don't even allow those, where's the freedom? * exercising your freedom to change the kernel (or even just to load an out- of-tree module!) requires you to disable "Secure" (Restricted) Boot anyway, so why support the restricted mode? (As much as I hate proprietary drivers, you can definitely expect a horde of their users showing up at your door with a pitchfork…) * implicit endorsement of M$ and their signature racket (including a monetary payment to their racketing partner Veri$ign – was that already made?). It might even lead M$ to drop the requirement to allow disabling "Secure" Boot (or even invert it into a prohibition as on ARM!), arguing that "Linux" (sic, should be GNU/Linux) supports it too anyway. * dependence on the racket, which can change its terms at any moment. Just saying "disable 'Secure' Boot in the BIOS" is the easiest solution to the problem. I remember the days where one had to disable "Plug&Play Operating System" in the BIOS to get GNU/Linux to boot at all on some machines, it didn't cause any real problems. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel