On 06/04/2012 10:24 AM, Jon Ciesla wrote: > On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Gerry Reno <greno@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On 06/01/2012 03:56 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote: >>> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Gerry Reno <greno@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> Drive manufacturers need to do nothing. >>>> >>>> One drive probably SSD at this point, gets dedicated to OS. Other drive to everything else. >>>> >>>> The read-write controllable interfaces already exist as I pointed out and are in use by forensic firms. >>> And how many consumer OEMs ship them? >>> >>> -J >> Any Chinese fab would be able to produce any quantity needed within weeks to any number of OEM's. > Key words, "would be able". What OEM ships this *today*? That's my point. > >>>> There are plenty of buttons/keys on machines right now that can be used to toggle this interface. >>>> >>>> It's 100% doable today with existing hardware. >>>> >>>> >> The whole point is that is that I provided just one example of an equally effective solution to SecureBoot that has much >> less impact on both Microsoft and Linux. The entire x86 industry is going to become a mess if SecureBoot is >> implemented. It'll be signature-HELL and a lot more. >> >> This whole SecureBoot runaway train needs to have the brakes slammed on. > I'm not saying I love SecureBoot, but that ship has sailed. Yes, and just like the Titanic it will have a lasting horrible impact. Gerry > I also > wish Amiga hadn't futzed with their floppy drive stepper motors to > squeeze in more sectors per disk and made my floppies unreadable > without a trip to eBay, but that ship has sailed as well, so I pretty > have to find the best solution available for the situation at hand. > > I would love for SecureBoot not to have happened, or to have happened > differently. If wishes were horses, even the poor would eat. > > -J > > -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel