On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Am 10.02.2012 20:42, schrieb Jon Ciesla: >> On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Am 10.02.2012 20:35, schrieb Jon Ciesla: >>>> On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Am 10.02.2012 20:01, schrieb Lennart Poettering: >>>>>> The IT industry is quite competitive and it advances faster than almost >>>>>> any other industry. The idea of "Hey, let's stop all progress for now, >>>>>> and spend a year on nothing" is not how you get to the top, and I do >>>>>> believe that that's where Fedora and Linux in general belongs. In fact, >>>>>> we probably need to move even quicker rather than slower if we want to >>>>>> outclass the competition comprehensively. >>>>> >>>>> you are meaning this seriously? >>>>> >>>>> change for the sake of change? >>>>> development for doing development? >>>>> having solution searching problem? >>>>> >>>>> WTF do you want to achieve with this attitude? >>>>> what complexes do you want to mask? >>>>> >>>>> do not fix things wich ain't broken! >>>>> >>>>> the is no improvement in waht you are saying! >>>>> this leads in headless development without any target >>>>> >>>>> finally you are saying we will never ever have computers just >>>>> working becasue of people like you which showing users from >>>>> time to time that it is wasted energy to adopt any new things >>>>> because if you are finished the next big change comes >>>>> >>>>> and then you wonder that so many users are frustrated about >>>>> what is going on while very few of them opening their mouth >>>>> on places where you recognize it - but realize that they are >>>>> there and do not wonder why the userbase is going away if >>>>> this attitude will not be stopped! >>>>> >>>> >>>> Things change, things break, things get fixed. Such is life. Show me >>>> an operating system or distribution that has undergone any relevant >>>> change in the last 20 years and not had anything break. It's happened >>>> in most Linux distros. It happens with OSX releases. And then >>>> there's that other OS. . . >>> >>> but the hitcounter and speed gets increased more and more >>> >> >> More users, more developers, the systems are getting more complex, the >> programs are getting more complex. Honestly, I'd expect things to be >> worse than they are. > > why are getting they so complex? > > because careless acting of developers in the last years and > it feels to get each year worser because nobody seems to > have the attitude making things right in teh first place > instead fast I would argue that it's due to increased functionality, but there are certainly flawed humans involved. > be careful mxing not root cause with symptom! The symptoms of today's problems are the root causes of tomorrow's problems. -J > > -- > devel mailing list > devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- in your fear, seek only peace in your fear, seek only love -d. bowie -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel