Also along these lines... Perhaps this has been discussed before I'm not aware of it but do we really need to hold up a package because the submitter needs a sponsor? What I mean by that is, if I'm not misunderstanding the process, that a person who submits their first package must be sponsored before that package can be accepted into Fedora. So basically we're holding up a package that may be very desirable to others until the packager has proven themselves. Does this make sense? If the package has made it to an acceptable state, should it not be accepted regardless of the packagers sponsor status? That way they could go ahead and get experience with the whole process, with just one package to start with, because believe me, the first package I imported into Fedora was an anxiety ridden experience with a high learning curve. Not everyone already understands fedpkg and git :) The net effect would be that new packagers would get to experience the process from start to finish with one package first. If/When they submit a second package, they would set the needsponsor flag again so only sponsors would review their packages, and so forth until such time that a sponsor believed it was time to take the training wheels off. Of course, I wouldn't want to discourage doing informal reviews of other packages. Richard -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel