first sorry for some bad words from mine, but this is how i feel in a situation not knowing how to act since upgraded short ago to F14 in the hope get my energy refreshed staying there for some months and now realizing i will newer get new intel hardware well supportd on it ______________________ please respect that some people are having really troubles with their health (what is happening to me this time in a way i wish not for my worst enemy), trying to make a great job at the same time as far as it is possible many of them (as i) have taken responsible for a lot of systems running really well with F14 and are having simply not the mental and physical energy to switch their whole setup in an invasive way but they are forced to do this because they needed new hardware and if you buy hardware now which should work 5 years or longer you will take the latest generation :-( ______________________ REALLY: Fedora should consider a not so invasive way like KDE4, GNOME3, systemd in an early release especially for updated systems because what sometimes happens here is that features are included at a time some people are hoping they are ready and on the other hand kernel-updates like for F6/F7/F8 are stopped in the latest releases -> 2.6.38 would support new intel-network cards what after that happens with power-users which are not only insert a CD and taking all as pre-configured is anger, frustration, fear.... try to fully support their configurations for two releases and only install KDE4, GNOME3, systemd on new setups as default will bring you a real userbase to optimize things without destroy the experience of users which are loving Fedora since "Fedora Core 3" and showing their wish to have a little time to get warm with new features without the feeling "take it or leave it" is respected as said: i love the idea of systemd and i am sure this will finally be a great thing, but we all know there are bugs in new and complex software - so if Fedora would try not be so invasive to existing setups peopole with more than one machine have the option to wait some weeks/months before the first after-release bugs are fixed while they can update on new hardware for several reasons (Sandy Brdige network/graphics) without Am 13.06.2011 09:47, schrieb Kevin Kofler: > For KDE, it was just plain impossible to support both 3.5 and 4.0 and so it was the wrong decision ship KDE4.0 which was really unusable and upstream declared only for developers! before 4.2 KDE4 was buggy like hell and missing a lot of options nearly the same happens now with GNOME3 and is a spit in the face for many users which are switched from KDE4.0 to GNOME because KDE4.0 was not useable for them > in the same distribution without violating the FHS. interesting argument where do you find /run in the FHS <anger> oh i frgot this is for systemd and tech reasons needed which are more important as the users which have to live with "your" decisions.... </anger>
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